*** Software Architect & Lead Openings @ Hyderabad

[Perfect Job Accord]

******** Please send profiles in Word Format to My Email-Id :
suma@perfectjobaccord.com **********

Hi,

This is Suma from Perfect Job Accord. We do have **immediate
requirement at My client (New start-up in Hyderabad)

Position: Software Architect
Location: Hyderabad

Qualification: B.E / B.Tech / M.E / M.Tech.

Yrs. of experience : 4 - 9 Years plus

Requirements

· Experience with ATCA based systems is a must
· Proven experience in architecting, developing & delivering sw
infrastructure for storage / networking carrier grade systems.
· Hands-on experience developing Service Availability Forum compliant
High Availability
middleware or developing system solutions using SAF compliant
middleware
· Hands-on experience with Linux kernel internals & driver level
programming
· Proven experience delivering a complete project from concept to
release & maintenance
· Familiarity with OpenHPI is a plus
· Proven technical leadership ability
· Excellent communication skills and ability to work with remote
development site


Position: Lead Software Engineer
Location: Hyderabad

Qualification: B.E / B.Tech / M.E / M.Tech.

Yrs. of experience : 3 - 9 Years plus

Requirements:

Proven experience in architecting, developing & delivering sw
infrastructure for carrier grade systems targeting 2G/3G wireless
networks.

Expertise and detailed understanding of accounting & billing
infrastructure deployments within carrier networks

Proven experience developing security and authentication sw
infrastructure to interface to AAA servers

Strong sw development experience of over 3+ years using C & Carrier
Grade Linux

Since this requirements is urgent and more professionals are required
for them, Kindly pass on these details to your colleagues/friends and
see that they may also utilize this opportunity for better prospects.

Please attach your latest resume in Word Format with the following
information to My Email-Id : suma@perfectjobaccord.com

Willing to relocate to Hyderabad:
Current salary:
Expected salary:
Time required to join:
Reason for changing:
Your latest contact details:

Awaiting your reply.

With Regards,

Suma
Perfect Job Accord
Madhapur
Hyderabad.
suma@perfectjobaccord.com

[Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}]

In message <1180092334.435566.246660@u36g2000prd.googlegroups. com>, Perfect
Job Accord wrote:

> ******** Please send profiles in Word Format to My Email-Id :

Isn't this sort of ironic in a Linux group. I suppose Open Office can manage
it, but...
--
Dave
mail da ve@llondel.org (without the space)
http://www.llondel.org
So many gadgets, so little time

[phil-news-nospam@ipal.net]

On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:39:06 +0100 Dave {Reply Address in.Sig} <noone$$@llondel.org> wrote:
| In message <1180092334.435566.246660@u36g2000prd.googlegroups. com>, Perfect
| Job Accord wrote:
|
|> ******** Please send profiles in Word Format to My Email-Id :
|
| Isn't this sort of ironic in a Linux group. I suppose Open Office can manage
| it, but...

....but the recruiters and HR people are, and will always be, ignorant about
Linux. I'll gladly accept your resume in OOo, PDF, HTML, or plain ASCII text
formats and pass them on to _my_ ${DAYJOB} if you like (several openings) :-)

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[Moe Trin]

On 27 May 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.embedded, in article
<f3ave102csa@news3.newsguy.com>, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote:

>On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:39:06 +0100 Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}
> <noone$$@llondel.org> wrote:
>| In message <1180092334.435566.246660@u36g2000prd.googlegroups. com>, Perfect
>| Job Accord wrote:
>|
>|> ******** Please send profiles in Word Format to My Email-Id :

Actually, a so-called recruiter posting job ads in technical newsgroups
should be a flag that they are on a par with spammers and responding to
those ads may do more harm to your job search than good. Corporate
policy directs that HR not accept mail from recruiters who have been
caught posting ads in technical groups, as that generally indicates
they have no viable candidates, and are getting desperate.

>| Isn't this sort of ironic in a Linux group. I suppose Open Office can
>! manage it, but...

A _very_ frequent reason the lower quality pimps want the CV/resume in
word format is to allow them to "improve" it (giving the applicant skills
and experience that exactly match the job requisition). This is why our
HR types require the candidate to _bring_ a copy of their CV/resume to
the initial meeting - a mismatch raises a huge flag, and the candidate
will be asked about the pimp supplied version. That is usually enough to
get the pimp's company banned, and often results in the candidate being
rejected.

>...but the recruiters and HR people are, and will always be, ignorant
>about Linux.

s/about Linux//

Some time ago, we had a new HR type who was adding requirements to those
that we (the technical types) had specified. One requirement was some
number of years experience with Bill-ware, while another was a some form
of certification. Supposedly, she thought we had overlooked these
"fundamental" (to her) requirements. When we found out about these
additions, the "new" HR person became an 'ex-HR' person.

First, we've been microsoft free for years, so windoze experience is
often a negative. Second, we tend to look down (pretty hard) on most
certifications (unless they are required by law or similar), as this
_usually_ means that the individual was able to memorize material needed
to pass someone's tests - and this often is not very relevant to real
world technical problems. Some of the things the certificating entity
deem important may in fact be irrelevant, and on occasion, flat out wrong.
Microsoft and Novell are notorious for this, as are some others that shall
remain nameless.

>I'll gladly accept your resume in OOo, PDF, HTML, or plain ASCII text
>formats

Color us old-fashion, but we require it on paper (or exceptionally by
fax).

Old guy

[Me]

On Sun, 27 May 2007 18:55:23 -0500, Noone wrote:

>>I'll gladly accept your resume in OOo, PDF, HTML, or plain ASCII text
>>formats
>
> Color us old-fashion, but we require it on paper (or exceptionally by
> fax).

You all are the exception rather than the rule. Most of the applicable
jobs I've seen these days (require) on-line application. Try cut-n-paste
of a legitimate four page CV into a web form and on top of that keeping
the formatting. Ya can't do it.

HR is a totally useless profession. They are spineless middle-men who's
only job is to run defense for management and none are technically capable
of gauging my background, let along negotiating with me.

Common questions I ask HR kronies and answers I receive.

1) Q) What is the tax structure here? What will you be withholding?
A) I don't know...I'm not a tax consultant.

2) Q) What happens to my N shares of stock options if the company is
bought out before I can exercise those options? Does management also have
to wait five years to be vested in their options? A) They don't want to
go anywhere near these questions...

3) Q) Can I see your employee handbook BEFORE negotiating salary? A) No.
We cannot show you confidential company material until you are an employee.


4) Q) Do you protect confidential employee information or must I use a
third party on-line service to manage my benefits? A) We outsource this
service to a third party that uses "secure web browser technology" so
their shouldn't be any problem. When I point out that their outsourced
firm has its server farm in Florida specifically to avoid having to report
break-ins the company loses interest in me as a candidate.

5) Q) If I'm applying for a Chief Scientist of Principle Engineer position
then why am I reporting to a Project Manager instead of an Executive or
Director? A) unspoken answer---because we only need you for eight months
to get us out of this hole we dug, and after that anything goes.

[Rae Westwood]

On Mon, 28 May 2007 03:07:02 +0000, Me wrote:
> service to a third party that uses "secure web browser technology" so
> their shouldn't be any problem. When I point out that their outsourced

oops...I should proofread before posting: "their" should read "there"

>
> 5) Q) If I'm applying for a Chief Scientist of Principle Engineer
> position then why am I reporting to a Project Manager instead of an
> Executive or Director? A) unspoken answer---because we only need you
> for eight months to get us out of this hole we dug, and after that
> anything goes.


and "principle" should be "principal"...how embarrassing!

[phil-news-nospam@ipal.net]

On Sun, 27 May 2007 18:55:23 -0500 Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld> wrote:

| A _very_ frequent reason the lower quality pimps want the CV/resume in
| word format is to allow them to "improve" it (giving the applicant skills
| and experience that exactly match the job requisition). This is why our
| HR types require the candidate to _bring_ a copy of their CV/resume to
| the initial meeting - a mismatch raises a huge flag, and the candidate
| will be asked about the pimp supplied version. That is usually enough to
| get the pimp's company banned, and often results in the candidate being
| rejected.

Even if the candidate is genuinely qualified? And please do not give me
the BS that the candidate can't be accepted because you are afraid the
recruiter might sue. You have a written contract with the recruiter that
says "thou shalt not modify resumes on penalty of loss of commission" to
CYA, right?


|>...but the recruiters and HR people are, and will always be, ignorant
|>about Linux.
|
| s/about Linux//

There is that, too.


| Some time ago, we had a new HR type who was adding requirements to those
| that we (the technical types) had specified. One requirement was some
| number of years experience with Bill-ware, while another was a some form
| of certification. Supposedly, she thought we had overlooked these
| "fundamental" (to her) requirements. When we found out about these
| additions, the "new" HR person became an 'ex-HR' person.

You can't just give her specific instructions?


| First, we've been microsoft free for years, so windoze experience is
| often a negative. Second, we tend to look down (pretty hard) on most
| certifications (unless they are required by law or similar), as this
| _usually_ means that the individual was able to memorize material needed
| to pass someone's tests - and this often is not very relevant to real
| world technical problems. Some of the things the certificating entity
| deem important may in fact be irrelevant, and on occasion, flat out wrong.
| Microsoft and Novell are notorious for this, as are some others that shall
| remain nameless.

I agree with this.


|>I'll gladly accept your resume in OOo, PDF, HTML, or plain ASCII text
|>formats
|
| Color us old-fashion, but we require it on paper (or exceptionally by
| fax).
|
| Old guy

Businesses still have fax, unfortunately. That is technology that needs
to be depricated. How many people looking for tech jobs cannot find a
way to email or post a resume, or print it on real dead trees and snail
mail it, but have a fax machine?

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|------------------------------------/-------------------------------------|

[phil-news-nospam@ipal.net]

On Mon, 28 May 2007 03:07:02 -0000 Me <noone@all.com> wrote:
| On Sun, 27 May 2007 18:55:23 -0500, Noone wrote:
|
|>>I'll gladly accept your resume in OOo, PDF, HTML, or plain ASCII text
|>>formats
|>
|> Color us old-fashion, but we require it on paper (or exceptionally by
|> fax).
|
| You all are the exception rather than the rule. Most of the applicable
| jobs I've seen these days (require) on-line application. Try cut-n-paste
| of a legitimate four page CV into a web form and on top of that keeping
| the formatting. Ya can't do it.

A company that would use something like that just won't get my application.
And then if they start claiming there are not enough people for the jobs
they have, I will publically call them liars.


| HR is a totally useless profession. They are spineless middle-men who's
| only job is to run defense for management and none are technically capable
| of gauging my background, let along negotiating with me.

I've met a few exceptions. OK, that was 10 years ago.


| Common questions I ask HR kronies and answers I receive.
|
| 1) Q) What is the tax structure here? What will you be withholding?
| A) I don't know...I'm not a tax consultant.
|
| 2) Q) What happens to my N shares of stock options if the company is
| bought out before I can exercise those options? Does management also have
| to wait five years to be vested in their options? A) They don't want to
| go anywhere near these questions...
|
| 3) Q) Can I see your employee handbook BEFORE negotiating salary? A) No.
| We cannot show you confidential company material until you are an employee.
|
|
| 4) Q) Do you protect confidential employee information or must I use a
| third party on-line service to manage my benefits? A) We outsource this
| service to a third party that uses "secure web browser technology" so
| their shouldn't be any problem. When I point out that their outsourced
| firm has its server farm in Florida specifically to avoid having to report
| break-ins the company loses interest in me as a candidate.

I bet you lost interest by the time of the 2nd word of their answer.


| 5) Q) If I'm applying for a Chief Scientist of Principle Engineer position
| then why am I reporting to a Project Manager instead of an Executive or
| Director? A) unspoken answer---because we only need you for eight months
| to get us out of this hole we dug, and after that anything goes.

That should be a contract job at 5x premium.

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[phil-news-nospam@ipal.net]

On Mon, 28 May 2007 03:12:47 -0000 Rae Westwood <boomchuggapowpow@badjazzmusic.com> wrote:

| On Mon, 28 May 2007 03:07:02 +0000, Me wrote:
|> service to a third party that uses "secure web browser technology" so
|> their shouldn't be any problem. When I point out that their outsourced
|
| oops...I should proofread before posting: "their" should read "there"
|
|>
|> 5) Q) If I'm applying for a Chief Scientist of Principle Engineer
|> position then why am I reporting to a Project Manager instead of an
|> Executive or Director? A) unspoken answer---because we only need you
|> for eight months to get us out of this hole we dug, and after that
|> anything goes.
|
|
| and "principle" should be "principal"...how embarrassing!

Your career in the PR department has just ... you can hear that flushing
sound now :-)

You better stick to working with technology where "rm -fr / tmp" is more fun.

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[Moe Trin]

On 28 May 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.embedded, in article
<f3ejth11nns@news4.newsguy.com>, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote:
>On Sun, 27 May 2007 18:55:23 -0500 Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld>
wrote:

>> That is usually enough to get the pimp's company banned, and often
>> results in the candidate being rejected.
>
>Even if the candidate is genuinely qualified? And please do not give me
>the BS that the candidate can't be accepted because you are afraid the
>recruiter might sue.

Those using the service of a lying pimp? Yeah, for two reasons; First,
our legal and HR types don't want to give even the faintest impression
of not being fair. Second, many of those who fall for the B/S from a
lying pimp are not doing their homework, and are thus less desirable.

>You have a written contract with the recruiter that says "thou shalt
>not modify resumes on penalty of loss of commission" to CYA, right?

Sure, Phil. Actually, fully three quarters of our hires come from
internal referrals. The employee providing the referral gets a finders
fee when the candidate finishes the probation period, and gets frowny
points if the candidate bombs. We think we get better quality that way.

>| Some time ago, we had a new HR type who was adding requirements to those
>| that we (the technical types) had specified.

>You can't just give her specific instructions?

You have to give instruction to your HR idiots _not_ to add requirements
of a technical nature? I really don't know where HR dug this person up
from, but she thought that the other requirements were needed. Why, I'll
never know, as she apparently left the area after being canned.

>Businesses still have fax, unfortunately. That is technology that needs
>to be depricated. How many people looking for tech jobs cannot find a
>way to email or post a resume, or print it on real dead trees and snail
>mail it, but have a fax machine?

If you don't have a neighborhood "Kinkos", "Mail Boxes Etc." or similar,
check with your local Safeway or equivalent. Actually, I can still send
documents with efax, kfax, and who knows what else. I seem to recall
that ms word had the option to print to a fax connection, though I
haven't used word in 15 years.

I suspect one reason we don't accept email, web, or Word/etc. formats
is to avoid incompatible files. Postscript or PDFs usually run afoul of
the mail filters. Sure, OOo will handle several formats, but we tend
to be looking for the words, not the color of the crayon that was used
to create the document in some creative style. Only HR actually _sees_
the document, as they mask it, add a serial number, and then scan it.
All the technical types see is the ASCII printout of the CV/resume (we
don't get the cover letters either) - from which any identifying data
(name, sex, age, etc.) other than that serial number have been masked to
avoid any bias on our part. (That can come in the interview, but no
one would _ever_ admit to that.)

Old guy

In article <f3ek6d21nns@news4.newsguy.com>, <phil-news-nospam@ipal.net> wrote:

>A company that would use something like that just won't get my application.
>And then if they start claiming there are not enough people for the jobs
>they have, I will publically call them liars.

It's not that there aren't enough people. They want H1B's that'll work
for nothing and be virtual slaves.

[phil-news-nospam@ipal.net]

On Tue, 29 May 2007 02:40:39 -0000 ellis@no.spam wrote:
| In article <f3ek6d21nns@news4.newsguy.com>, <phil-news-nospam@ipal.net> wrote:
|
|>A company that would use something like that just won't get my application.
|>And then if they start claiming there are not enough people for the jobs
|>they have, I will publically call them liars.
|
| It's not that there aren't enough people. They want H1B's that'll work
| for nothing and be virtual slaves.

I would mention that, too.

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[phil-news-nospam@ipal.net]

On Mon, 28 May 2007 19:57:22 -0500 Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld> wrote:

|>You have a written contract with the recruiter that says "thou shalt
|>not modify resumes on penalty of loss of commission" to CYA, right?
|
| Sure, Phil. Actually, fully three quarters of our hires come from
| internal referrals. The employee providing the referral gets a finders
| fee when the candidate finishes the probation period, and gets frowny
| points if the candidate bombs. We think we get better quality that way.

You probably do. That is a good way to find good people.


|>Businesses still have fax, unfortunately. That is technology that needs
|>to be depricated. How many people looking for tech jobs cannot find a
|>way to email or post a resume, or print it on real dead trees and snail
|>mail it, but have a fax machine?
|
| If you don't have a neighborhood "Kinkos", "Mail Boxes Etc." or similar,
| check with your local Safeway or equivalent. Actually, I can still send
| documents with efax, kfax, and who knows what else. I seem to recall
| that ms word had the option to print to a fax connection, though I
| haven't used word in 15 years.

Ooh. I used once Word 4 years ago. But I didn't look at what it could
print to.


| I suspect one reason we don't accept email, web, or Word/etc. formats
| is to avoid incompatible files. Postscript or PDFs usually run afoul of
| the mail filters. Sure, OOo will handle several formats, but we tend
| to be looking for the words, not the color of the crayon that was used
| to create the document in some creative style. Only HR actually _sees_
| the document, as they mask it, add a serial number, and then scan it.
| All the technical types see is the ASCII printout of the CV/resume (we
| don't get the cover letters either) - from which any identifying data
| (name, sex, age, etc.) other than that serial number have been masked to
| avoid any bias on our part. (That can come in the interview, but no
| one would _ever_ admit to that.)

We just get the original resume in the original format, unmodified. We've
gotten ASCII text, PDF, and Word (that OOo could handle). No PS, yet.

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[Moe Trin]

On 29 May 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.embedded, in article
<f3h4t2276l@news5.newsguy.com>, phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote:

> Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld> wrote:

>| Actually, fully three quarters of our hires come from internal
>| referrals. The employee providing the referral gets a finders
>| fee when the candidate finishes the probation period, and gets frowny
>| points if the candidate bombs. We think we get better quality that way.
>
>You probably do. That is a good way to find good people.

Carrying it further, another source is student intern programs. We have
agreements with local colleges and junior/community colleges to provide
student intern (work experience) positions. At each facility, there is
one person designated to handle the administrative details (verifying
attendance, handling the paperwork), and each department has a
designated supervisor/trainer. This gets us warm bodies at a low
expense, with a commitment of a quarter or semester. If we like what
we see, they get invited back for a second (occasionally third) stint.
The good ones get hired on. This isn't a slave labor program (much as
we joke that it is), as the students are given real world situations.
Both of the 2nd time interns in my department have 'sudo' capabilities
of real trust.

>| I seem to recall that ms word had the option to print to a fax
>| connection, though I haven't used word in 15 years.
>
>Ooh. I used once Word 4 years ago. But I didn't look at what it could
>print to.

If I recall correctly, this was a windoze printer setup function, rather
than specific to the application. In the application, you could then
select which printer you wanted, and one of them could be a fax connection.

>We just get the original resume in the original format, unmodified.
>We've gotten ASCII text, PDF, and Word (that OOo could handle). No PS,
>yet.

Again, HR and legal want to avoid any hint of bias, and it was decided
that cutting/pasting a copy such that "all" identifying points were
not visible was the way to go. I think we ran into a buzz-saw with the
California Labor Relations Board or something, and corporate overreacted
as occasionally happens. I know this is the procedure throughout the US
and Canada, and is probably true in European facilities as well. I don't
know about facilities elsewhere.

Old guy

[phil-news-nospam@ipal.net]

On Tue, 29 May 2007 19:14:44 -0500 Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld> wrote:

| Again, HR and legal want to avoid any hint of bias, and it was decided
| that cutting/pasting a copy such that "all" identifying points were
| not visible was the way to go. I think we ran into a buzz-saw with the
| California Labor Relations Board or something, and corporate overreacted
| as occasionally happens. I know this is the procedure throughout the US
| and Canada, and is probably true in European facilities as well. I don't
| know about facilities elsewhere.

I suppose there could be a bias if someone had your first name and my last
name: Moe Howard :-)

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